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# Dr Cleans PayPal Methods
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Just beware plenty of fake vendor trying to sell you guide that never
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works and attempt to create fake impression that his/her method is
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actually working. in fact, after i carefully studied his post.. there are
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big flaws and never can achieve what the vendor claims
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usually the first thing you have to pay attention is the username, those
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conman usually use prestigious nickname like Doctor, phd, lawyer,
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principal, professor, etc.. followed by their post boasting living in
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mansion, with ferrari, hot chicks, swimming pool, etc. they also publicly
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claimed his method made 100 - 200k.. in reality that probably means 1 or
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2k only. usually they telling you gonna reveal the method most likely
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because their own method about to get saturated
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i have nothing against "Dr.Clean" but it seems the evo forum is becoming
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playground for con-artist, filled with fantasy story teller and its
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dissapointing not a lot of ppl talk about proper fraud anymore. however
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some of his advice seems useful in some aspect so here is the post. but
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when you read further you'll realize he contradict himself as well..such
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as u have to call paypal immediately, but later saying we are not
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encouraged to call paypal and just send in scans. he also claimed using
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ebay scams..but later said ebay scam method is not preferred lol..he also
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didnt tell us anything about the ebay fees..apparently this gonna eat up
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lots ur money when in the process of creating fake ebay feedback..bcoz u
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need to remove ebay selling limitation before can start the scams.. and
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using fullz to create paypal account.. this may not resulting in sucess
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because if the same fullz has been used by the original owner. you
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obviously cant create the paypal account again. he also claimed using
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whonix, openvpn setup..but
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later saying preferred just use dedicated ip..lol
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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The majority of people believe all that entails in aging a pay pal is
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send money from one paypal account you own to another account you own
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back and forth but that is not the case. The problem that arrives is that
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the majority of people when aging an account trigger pay pals security
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algorithms because they create a very abnormal payment pattern. They will
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age an account with completely clean funds using accounts they have
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access to and nothing else and then decide one day that they will try to
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send dirty money to the account from locations that do not match the
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pattern the account has created and then wonder why the account was
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flagged and placed on restriction. The pattern became abnormal.
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We must create a pattern that matches the payment location, amounts,
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frequency and pattern that pay pals security programs will see when they
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are analyzing payment validity. How do you do this? Hook your paypal to a
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gateway or an online store (tictail, shopify) or a gateway(freelance
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sites, ecommerce etc anything in which it is normal to get paid very
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large amounts in one transaction) Buy prepaid cards from different
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countries, make large legitimate payments from different cards and
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different locations etc try to shy away from rounded amounts like 1k 2k
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5k etc include decimal amounts( like 5005.67, 3010.35) in the payments
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rounded payments with no taxes consistently will trigger the security
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algorithms
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Pay pal is looking at unverified accounts receiving large amounts from
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the point of creation
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Location, age, amount, frequency, and where the source of said funds.
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All you will need is a document scan vendor to get a paypal unrestricted,
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I create my own scans but a good vendor should be good enough to pass, be
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sure to use a scan that looks legitimate and not a altered scan
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If you are ever flagged be sure to call paypal immediately and appear
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extremely dismayed ( remember you are a legit customer and this is your
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money you MUST make PP think this to get unrestricted. Present the
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correct documentation and if it they don't just put you on hold and ask
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to many questions simply hang up and call back, you will get an agent who
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really could care less eventually and will probably verified the
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documents as long as they look somewhat legit.
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Summary : abnormal pattern
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Aging paypal : do not transfer back and forth to the multiple paypal
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accounts you own. after a while, this will have a pattern..then one day,
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when you try transfer a dirty fund from another account.. this creates
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abnormal pattern. so paypal security triggered and limits/restricted your
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account.
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so you must create a normal pattern. normal patterns means like payment
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location, amounts, frequency
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hook paypal to a gateway
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-tictail
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-shopify
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-freelance site
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get prepaid cards from different country (this steps is rather difficult,
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he only shows me buy usa prepaid card from Saguaro at evo marketplace),
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make large legit transaction like 1k, 2k,
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-do not use rounded amount like $1000, $2000, $3000, $4000, this will
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trigger security
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-use decimal amounts, for eg: $1025.35, $2310.50, $3504.10
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all the account used in the process must be verified. if account
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restricted, be prepared with the scans
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if flagged, call paypal immediately(use spooftel) and appear extremely
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dismayed, must make paypal think you want this resolved asap. if agent
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ask too many questions, just hang up and call back, until you get an
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agent couldnt care less and will probably verify the docs as long as they
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look somewhat legit.
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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I wouldn't recommend trying to SE the restriction seeing how easy it is
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to get doc scans on the market and even the clearnet if you know where to
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go (and they are dirt cheap really for the money you make from them), Ive
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only gotten one account off of hold without the correct documentation and
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I still cant figure out how I did it, I account it to incompetence on the
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part of the agent I was speaking with and not my SE skills( even though I
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have acquired high quality SE skills especially with pay-pal agents) Just
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buy Doc Scans.
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Summary :
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Not recommended to call/social engineer the restriction, you can get docs
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scans easily and its cheap
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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I find that the accounts from buyvcc majority of the time are not
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verified(unless you ask them directly for a verified account and become
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restricted and need doc scans very easily after the first couple of
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transfers I have yet to have an account from buyvcc that doesn't
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eventually get restricted(not that it matter if you have a good source
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for doc scans.
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But for setting up a paypal ring they are great funding/ and cashout
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accounts( some of the best) especially if you are using eBay scams to
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fund you paypal ring because you can pay extra money to have a ebay
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account already linked to the account from buyvcc. ( honestly it is
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better to let your account become limited and then have it unrestricted
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it lifts the transfer limits to almost double on personal and premier
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accounts and triple for business accounts) So for the cashout account or
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the funding account I would reccomend buying from vcc allowing it to
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become limited at the end of the aging process and un restricting the
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account to have the account cashout limits lifted.
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For middle man accounts (which assist in cleaning the funds) I would
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reccomend buying fullz and creating an account yourself. Simply because
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you can get great fullz with valid information for opening a mirad of
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middle man accounts in bulk( paypal is less likely to chargeback money
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thats bounced through 4 or more accounts and even if it has it will not
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put your cashout account in the minus it will take the money from the
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first line middle man accounts or wherever they think the fraud occurred
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from) I call these accounts the throw away middle man accounts as they
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will more than likely go into the negative when the chargeback hits and
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you will have to throw them away. Giving you the chance to constantly be
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moving the accounts from the back line to the front line when you must
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create more accounts (I would at least recommend keeping 5 middle man
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accounts and rotate them in the order which they receive payment from
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oldest first to youngest last) this way you can constantly update your
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pay pal ring when accounts
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become throwaway first lines.
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Summary :
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buyvcc account, great for funding and cashout account.
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to fund the account, do it via ebay scams. buyvcc acc with options of
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ebay acc already linked
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then money transfer to another paypal account. known as middle man acc or
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paypal ring
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to remove the limits of your funding/cashout account.. let it become
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limited.. and wait until it unlift. this will increase your transfer
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limit, double for personal & premier acc, triple for biz accounts. then
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until sending/withdraw limits is unlimited
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create middle man accounts method : buy fullz, then create the account
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yourself.
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when receive money from funding accounts, paypal is less likely
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chargeback money that bounced through 4 or more accounts. so at the end,
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your cashout account will not affected
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the middleman account will get chargeback and in negative, this will be
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throwaway accounts.
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recommended to have 5 middle man account ready, and when oldest hit with
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chargeback, throw it away and replace with new middleman account. do it
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in sequential order.. constantly update your paypal ring, from oldest
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first to youngest last.
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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If you want quick funds link your funding account to a payment gateway or
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online store and buy bulk cc's and card the funds Redson Elmachioo77 or
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another of the great cc vendors will do for the quick dirty funding
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method.
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If you want somewhat cleaner funds link your pp to a EBAY or any bidding
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site and list something that would physically take forever to ship(at
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least 2 weeks i.e. a fridge, a safe, something that is rather heavy in
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weight) list it at 60-85% of asking price and never ship the item. It
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will result in a charge back so if you use this method I would use fullz
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to create your funding account because it will get burned eventually
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If you want even cleaner funds buy hacked bank accounts preferably TD,
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BOA, Wells etc match the info on the PP account to the info on the bank
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account and link the bank account to the pay pal account and transfer the
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money from your funding account through to your middle man accounts.
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Try to match the frequency and transfer amounts that are on the hacked
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account not to raise suspicion and try to get high balance business
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account (your funding account will get burned eventually so use the info
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from the account and try to get an account with the highest value and
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most information) also if you use this method try to bounce the funds at
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least 3 times. I would reccomend buying fullz buy the bulk from those
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with large amounts in the bank or high value credit limits (as they are
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less likely to find out that a paypal has been opened in theyre name).
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Summary : funding method
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1.) link funding account to payment gateway -> buy bulk cc and card the
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funds. cc vendor like Redsons, Elmachio77
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2.) link funding account to ebay, bidding site. list something that would
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physically take forever to ship. at least 2 weeks for eg: fridge, a safe,
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heavy in weight. list it 60 - 85% of the retail price and never ship the
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item. if you going this route, use fullz to create the paypal account,
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same as middle man account method. because will get burned/throw away at
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the end.
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3.) buy hacked bank accounts - TD, BOA, Wells fargo
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funding paypal account link it with the bank logins/number/routing
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details u bought
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after linked, transfer money to middle man account, the amount of
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transfer should be based on history and nearly same amount as not to
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raise flag.
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get high balance business account will be easier to execute this
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transfer the money from funding acc to middleman account, to middleman
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acc again..at least go thru 3 middleman account
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if going this route, use fullz to create the account, same as middleman
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account method, as it will be throw away at the end.
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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I have at least 3 funding accounts at all times: I usually use Ebay scams
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to fund the majority of my funding accounts as the chargeback takes at
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least 3-4 weeks if you correctly pull off the scam. Simply match the info
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on the Ebay and the funding PP account Link them together and sell
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something with substantial weight that would take at least 2-3 weeks to
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ship, keep in constant communication with the buyer to delay charge-back
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( Ive even shipped a small package to the buyer to be able to provide a
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tracking number to the buyers)
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Another way is to do a product ratio scale scam. Selling products that
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are scale replicas to buyers thinking they are getting a fridge for cheap
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only winding up with a 1:15 scale version of the product ( you would be
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surprised how many people don't read the product description when they
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see a extreme deal on an item.
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I personally don't recommend using just middle man to middleman because
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your middle man will get burned and you'll constantly have to update your
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rings....
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I have used the Paypal mastercard but you have to have it shipped a
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reshipper using the address that is on the paypal. they will flag the
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account occasionally if it goes to far from the address that is on the
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paypal unless you call using the phone and phone code that verified the
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account and authorized the shipment to the drop address.
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Summary :
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have 3 funding accounts at all times
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use ebay scams as source of funding because it takes at least 3 - 4 weeks
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for chargeback if u correctly pull off the scams
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ebay account linked with the funding paypal accounts
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sell something with really heavy, takes 2 - 3 weeks to ship. keep in
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constant communication with buyer to delay chargeback
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another way is product ratio scam, 1:15 replica items.. ppl dont read
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description when see extreme deal on the item
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dont recommend midlle man to middle man..because it will get burned and
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need to update your rings
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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Yea I would never put the cashout and middle man accounts in the same
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location, it looks weird to the security program algorithms because
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usually paypal payments come from all over the country and or world
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depending on whihc payment sytem your using unless you hook one of those
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payment gateways you can pay direct to each other or use paypal mobile
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and sell the correct product that doesnt look suspicious(I would have to
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think about what would work perfect for that type of setup), If you just
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want a quick cashout for low amounts you can have just middle and
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cashouts but if you want to establish large amounts of funds cycling
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consistently I wouldn't recommend it, if your strapped for cash just buy
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a bunch of fullz bulk and create the correct accounts. The more you
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bounce the less you'll have to worry about.
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Summary :
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cashout and middleman account must be in different location
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the more money go through..bounce to numerous account, the less you'll
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have to worry about
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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If its a guest checkout it really depends on the site you are using and
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how valid paypal considers they're payments. Majority of the time they
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are going to ask you to login for paypal to paypal transfers, unless your
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using a online store or gateway that accepts credit cards as payment
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directly to your paypal. If your doing that be sure to use socks or a vpn
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that matches the cc's location so that you dont trigger PP's sec.
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algorithms
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It wont just clean it bouncing from account to account, cycle it through
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an online store with very low transaction fee's( preferably very small
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percentages not flat fee's you kill your profit with large percentages
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when you start doing big transfers) Try not to send the entire amount at
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once and split the cleaning up in to pieces ( 200-300 for $1000 cleaning)
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(500-800) for cleaning 3-5k.
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Summary :
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bouncing from middle man to another middle man account will not clean the
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funds
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always use it via a payment gateway...cycle it with "buy" something on e-
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commerce store
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do not send entire amount at once, and split the cleaning process
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200 - 300 for $1000
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500 - 800 for 3 - 5k
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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Call paypal from the the phone that verified the account, use the contact
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us code on the phone it helps with verifying you have control of the
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account, assume the account holders info when they ask and politely
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explain that the hold is prohibiting you from continuing business, be
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very persistent that you need this money, all paypal agents can lift
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holds only certain agents can lift restrictions, Ive had holds lifted
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after 5 mins on the phone majority of the time, if it doesn't work hang
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up and call back and complete the same process with a different
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agent(preferably a American woman foreigners seems to give a harder time)
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Broadband: that may work simply because Idaho is a big state and it may
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not trigger anything if the payments aren't coming and going to the exact
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same place
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I use a bunch of security measures to keep everything kosher
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I run a VM through whonix through tails through openVPN and just buy
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fresh socks5 and match the IP's to what ever info I need matched. But
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dedicated IP's will do just fine if your not as computer savy.
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Summary :
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when call paypal. always spoof the number which is same number you
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registered on paypal (spooftel)
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use the contact us code provided. helps for verifying
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remember the acc holder info, and politely explain the hold funds is
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prohibiting u from continuing business. must be persistent
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all paypal agent can lift holds. only certain agent can lift restriction
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if agent asking too much questions, hang up and call back .. talk to
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another agent which is less strict
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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The Ebay Scam method takes alot more setup then simply receiving dirty
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funds from a cc(its not recommend to unless you have the time and cash to
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do it right), the way I get around the 21 day holds is providing a
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tracking number and providing shipping information(and calling paypal),
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The ratio eBay scam is the easiest way to do it.
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First in the description you put that the product is 1:15 ratio to scale
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DO NOT PUT IT IN THE BEGINNING AT THE LISTING (nobody every reads the
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product description when they see a great deal on something large) you
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send them a letter in a box so that you can provide a tracking number
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telling them that there product is arriving and providing a receipt this
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will buy you more time to send something I just buy a bunch of 1:15 scale
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doll appliances and place in the product description that these are
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handmade and no refund will be provided ( Ive had Ebay side with me when
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customers got angry and disputed when they received a doll fridge they
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paid $700 for) If it states in the description then its nothing that the
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customer can do so its semi legal your just tricking them into buying
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something the customer doesn't want.
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You need to doctor your ebay account alittle and pad its feedback to
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successfully pull off this scam to get around Ebays limitations (honestly
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it is easier to buy hacked bank accounts and create a paypal that matches
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the bank info and simply transfer it out) I only really fool with ebay if
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im running low on hacked business bank accounts) I like the ratio scams
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because if you do it right its nothing the customer can do 1 and it takes
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literally forever for a charge back Literally!!
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Summary :
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ebay scam also not easy to fund the account
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to get around 21 days hold, is provide tracking number, provide shipping
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information and call paypal
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however easiest ebay scam is selling 1:15 fake product ratio
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1:15 scale ratio DO not put it in the beginning at the listing, ppl
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usually dont read product description when they see great deal on
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something large
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send them a letter in a box, (provide tracking number).. in the letter
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tell them product is arriving and providing a receipt as well
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also need to artifically create fake feedback on your ebay account and
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removes the ebay limitations before start pulling this scams
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it is easier buy hacked bank accounts and link with paypal. then transfer
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it out
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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I usually stick to dedicated Ip's, VPN + RDP as socks5 sometimes get
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blacklisted when a provider is known to become involved in fraudulent
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activity but Convience sells a pretty good VPN socks5 and rdp package
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that wouldnt give you any of the trouble simply buying socks5 may get you
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into.
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Summary :
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stick to dedicated IP,
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convivencia sells good vpn socks5 and rdp
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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mentalmario wrote:
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Is it possible to cash out a stolen PP account?
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... Well obviously yes, ofcourse its possible, But do you know how to do
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it?
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Dr.Clean :
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Match the Location(get literally as close to the IP that is used as
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possible),
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Open a bank account that matches the info on the hacked account
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preferably something you can open online
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in the same dedicated IP you have matched up with paypal account
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(build history and cookies for at least 1 week without moving any funds I
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recommend 2-3 weeks just to be safe)
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then transfer the funds to your middle man accounts (preferably 4-5
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decreases the chance of your cashout account being hit with the
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chargeback) create the middle man accounts with bulk fullz and buy a
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verified business account for the cashout account( I recommend getting a
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buyvcc business account letting it get limited then verifying it with
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good doc scans triples the allowed limitations on daily transfers on
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business account on limited then unrestricted accounts, and cashout with
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a bank drop preferrably one with a physical ATM card
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That's the easiest way Ive found so far.
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Summary : How to cashout stolen paypal account
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open bank account based on paypal info
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open the bank account online
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dedicated IP, must be closest possible location with the stolen paypal
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address
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build some cookies/browsing history at least 1 week,.. 2-3 weeks
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recommended..login paypal, login online banking,browsing
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then from stolen paypal..tranfer to middleman account.. to another
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middleman 4-5 accounts
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the last account which is cashout account. buy from buyvcc biz
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account..withdraw limitation must be removed/unrestricted
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then cashout with a bankdrop ..preferably with physical atm card
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*Note - im not sure why Dr.Clean adviced to open bank account based on
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the stolen paypal, but at the ends..seems not related lol
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Dr.Clean wrote:
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darmy wrote : What are some other ways to cashout/transfer out the funds
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from the paypal account other than the ways mentioned such as freelance
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sites, currency exchanges, shopping, and middle man accounts?
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Sorry Brother didnt see this post
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Buying Giftcards
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from giftcardzen or giftcardgranny(be sure to match the IP they will flag
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the account)
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Going on Ebay selecting instore pickup for bestbuy or such and using a
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fake name and ID, then return the next day and get the item transfer to a
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giftcard and sell the giftcard for cash on craigslist
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Clean the funds and sell them directly for BTC(be sure to clean the funds
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first they will seize dirty funds)
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Buy things for people on brawker.com and similar sites
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at one point reckless was buying pp funds for btc( not sure if hes still
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doing it)
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and my favorite:
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Get Dr. Clean to clean and cash the funds out for you for a %
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Summary : Alternative cashout/transfer funds from paypal
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buying giftcards at giftcardzen or giftcardgranny (have to match IP)
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go to ebay, select instore pickup - bestbuy (require fake physical ID) ->
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next day return the item back -> money transfer to giftcards -> sell
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giftcards on craiglist
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Buy things for people on brawker.com and similar sites
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